Roger,

I hate to keep harping on this
but aren't BECs unextended
in space, as you put it.

And if so, life and its machinery
could be embedded a BEC
even if the BEC were extended.

BECs have the kind of magical properties
that suggest that they are outside spacetime.

Richard

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
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> On 04 Jan 2013, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:
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>> Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
>>
>> Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind, is not
>> extended in space
>> Those objects you mention are extended in space.
>
>
> Like numbers, programs and other digital machines.
> Well, even non digital machines, arguably.
>
> Glad you agree that life is not extended in space, but no machinery at all
> really is.
> Eventually they are the builders of space and time.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>>
>>
>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
>> 1/4/2013
>> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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>> Science is a religion by itself.
>> Why?
>> Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
>> only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
>> Here is the scheme of His plane.
>> =.
>> God : Ten Scientific Commandments.
>> ? 1. Vacuum: T=0K, E= 8 ,p= 0, t=8 .
>> ? 2. Particles: C/D=pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, i^2=-1.
>> ? 3. Photon: h=1, c=1, h=E/t, h=kb.
>> ? 4. Electron: h*=h/2pi, E=h*f , e^2=ach* .
>> ? 5. Gravity, Star formation: h*f = kTlogW : HeII -- > HeI -- > H --
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>>> . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> ? 6. Proton: (p).
>> ? 7. The evolution of interaction between Photon/Electron and Proton:
>> a) electromagnetic,
>> b) nuclear,
>> c) biological.
>> ? 8. The Physical Laws:
>> a) Law of Conservation and Transformation Energy/ Mass,
>> b) Pauli Exclusion Law,
>> c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Law.
>> ? 9. Brain: Dualism of Consciousness.
>> ? 10. Practice: Parapsychology. Meditation.
>> ===.
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