On 1/8/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Theism, like atheism, is unprovable.
Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is incapable of
proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence to you
I doubt this. You can give me evidence, but not a proof, unless a trivial definition of
"you". Proving is only theoretical. We cannot prove the existence of anything real.
You are using a narrow conception of 'proof', i.e. logical proof. But there is also
empirical proof and legal 'proof beyond a reasonable doubt'.
We can just find evidence supporting (pace David Deutsch) or refuting some hypotheses.
In science we never know as such.
If you cannot know anything except what you can prove in mathematics then you never know
anything except tautologies of the form "If x then x."
Brent
Bruno
but God can not. That seems a bit odd to me.
John K Clark
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