On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only ever gets 
> applied to what other people are choosing to discuss. People talk about what 
> people want to talk about. It's about taste, perception, preference and 
> prejudice. Even WITH rigidly adhered-to rules and conventions, this still 
> applies. The challenge is to take WHATEVER is spoken about and MAKE that 
> relevant somehow (to whatever you want to make it relevant to). That's 
> harder, more interesting and dare I say it - more relevant a process than 
> simply corralling all thinking under one topic or heading. As soon as you 
> start to set up rules, conventions and expectations the population divides 
> into those who feel that it is to their advantage to play by the "rules" and 
> those who believe that this is a constraint. This list is remarkably 
> troll-free. For that very reason I see no need to restrict what is spoken of. 
> The ensemble theories of everything probably won't come from the brains of 
> those who are exclusively obsessed by these things anyway since by now their 
> perception is circular and their belief supports their belief. You need 
> random thinkers, people who will break the local equilibrium and who will 
> introduce the creative concept of "idea movement" from time to time.

I like the idea of a moderator-free list, but nonetheless I agree with
Russell. The list was set up with a particular purpose in mind but in
the last few months the range of discussion topics has changed
radically. The Internet is large and there are plenty of other forums
in which to discuss politics and religion. Could we return to the old
list please?


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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