Stathis, you are close to have written what I wanted to add to Russell's
outcry. I wrote some time ago to Roger asking him to "give back our list" -
to no avail.
Now I would add only one 'catch'phrase of Russell to your invaluable post:
..."*the list has been remarkably troll-free*...."
implying that whoever disregards WeiDai's initiatives does misuse his
generosity in maintaining the list.
I went through crises on other lists generated by closed minded religious
terrorists and most lists survived.
I hope this one will as well, in spite of much discussion I really do not
understand with my limited science.
John Mikes Ph.D.(chem) D.Sc.(polymers) and for the past 3 decades a
(ret.) homespun agnostic philosopher.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au>
> > I'm getting a bit jack of this term "metadiscussion" becuse it only ever
> gets applied to what other people are choosing to discuss. People talk
> about what people want to talk about. It's about taste, perception,
> preference and prejudice. Even WITH rigidly adhered-to rules and
> conventions, this still applies. The challenge is to take WHATEVER is
> spoken about and MAKE that relevant somehow (to whatever you want to make
> it relevant to). That's harder, more interesting and dare I say it - more
> relevant a process than simply corralling all thinking under one topic or
> heading. As soon as you start to set up rules, conventions and expectations
> the population divides into those who feel that it is to their advantage to
> play by the "rules" and those who believe that this is a constraint. This
> list is remarkably troll-free. For that very reason I see no need to
> restrict what is spoken of. The ensemble theories of everything probably
> won't come from the brains of those who are exclusively obsessed by these
> things anyway since by now their perception is circular and their belief
> supports their belief. You need random thinkers, people who will break the
> local equilibrium and who will introduce the creative concept of "idea
> movement" from time to time.
> I like the idea of a moderator-free list, but nonetheless I agree with
> Russell. The list was set up with a particular purpose in mind but in
> the last few months the range of discussion topics has changed
> radically. The Internet is large and there are plenty of other forums
> in which to discuss politics and religion. Could we return to the old
> list please?
> Stathis Papaioannou
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