2013/3/8 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> > > > On Friday, March 8, 2013 7:41:23 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >> >> That may be not enough. suppose that you are starving, and you receive in >> your phone a message describing where is the next source of water but >> somehow the description is interspersed in the description of the complete >> equation of the M Theory that someone has found. You of course take the >> last as noise, despite that you know what is it. and you know that this >> message will be lost (le´ts suppose that). What is the information and how >> can it be measured?. >> >> Usually the study of information and the measure of it make many >> assumptions that made it incomplete. My idea is that it is not only the >> decoding, but the decrease in entropy that the receiver experiment. That >> include the decoding + the course of actions that the receiver takes with >> this information. I the case of the starving person, first it experiment a >> reduction in stress that reduces the muscular activity and the heat >> produces, instead it follow a ordered set of actions until he find the >> food, the food will repair the structuresof the body etc. >> > > What if the message was the opposite? "No food, bub, your next meal is all > on you." Then the stress increases, increases muscular activity as they > flail around looking for food and dissipating heat...finding no food, the > structures of the body are not repaired, etc. > > Or , even worst, the message can be a lie. Then after the discovery of that, the entropy will be higher than at the beginning , at least, because the energy spent. And the disbelief in the trustworthiness of further messages....
Craig > > >> >> >> >> >> 2013/3/8 Stephen P. King <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What is the difference between a random sequence of bits and a >>> meaningful message? The correct decryption scheme. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Onward! >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-li...@**go**oglegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**c**om. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>> /everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
