2013/3/8 Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>

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> On Friday, March 8, 2013 7:41:23 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote:
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>> That may be not enough. suppose that you are starving, and you receive in
>> your phone a message describing where is the next source of water but
>> somehow the description is interspersed in the description of  the complete
>> equation of the M Theory that someone has found. You of course take the
>> last as noise, despite that you know what is it. and  you know that this
>> message will be lost (leĀ“ts suppose that).  What is the information and how
>> can it be measured?.
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>> Usually the study of information and the measure of it make many
>> assumptions that made it incomplete.  My idea is that it is not only the
>> decoding, but the decrease in entropy that the receiver experiment.  That
>> include the decoding + the course of actions that the receiver takes with
>> this information. I the case of the starving person, first it experiment a
>> reduction in stress that reduces the muscular activity and the heat
>> produces, instead it follow a ordered set of actions until he find the
>> food, the food will repair the structuresof the body etc.
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> What if the message was the opposite? "No food, bub, your next meal is all
> on you." Then the stress increases, increases muscular activity as they
> flail around looking for food and dissipating heat...finding no food, the
> structures of the body are not repaired, etc.
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> Or , even worst, the message can be a lie.  Then after the discovery of
that, the entropy will be higher than at the beginning , at least, because
the energy spent.  And the disbelief in the trustworthiness of further
messages....



Craig
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>> 2013/3/8 Stephen P. King <step...@charter.net>
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>     What is the difference between a random sequence of bits and a
>>> meaningful message? The correct decryption scheme.
>>>
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>>> Stephen
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