On 3/8/2013 3:05 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Stephen, you know my aversion against random: it is a disorderly sequence the origination of which is not (yet?) disclosed to us - usually excluded from our ordinate view of nature since it deprives the prediction according to the so far derived (physical?) laws.

My second part to your question:
Meaningful is derived as based on our so far accumulated knowledge about the world. It grows steadily over the millennia.
So which 'meaningful' do you mean? yesterday's, or of 1000BC?

Hi John,

Knowledge is really just the result of a successful decryption scheme acting on what appears to all* observers to be a random string (modulo representations). The accumulate wisdom that one machine might know is not necessarily equal to that of another and thus should almost never be used as an objective or global measure. Meanigfulness might be defined as the measure of the ability to use some lattice of knowledge to generate some standard of work, BTU, horsepower, flops, etc.


Your "correct decryption scheme" is by the 2nd par. above.
Regards
John M


My use of the word 'all' is hereby redefined to mean "all of the members of some set or equivalence that might be non-regular <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_regularity>".

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Onward!

Stephen

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