On 19 Apr 2013, at 13:56, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Qualia are generated,
With comp the qualia are not generated. They are arithmetical truth
seen from some point of view. They cannot even been defined, but it
can be shown that they obeys to some laws (including the maws of not
being definable).
but only by other qualia. By pointing out that qualia can have no
possible function, I am clarifying that in a universe defined purely
by function, that qualia cannot be possible.
This does not follow. Qualia might be epiphenomenal.
But this does not follow for another reason: qualia have a function/
role, although in the intensional (program related) sense, and not
really in the usual extensional one (set of input-outputs). So it is
preferable to refer to computation instead of function, which is an
ambiguous term in computer science.
What this means is that the universe cannot be defined purely by
function. It cannot be a motor, machine, computer, zombie, or set of
all arithmetic truths.
This is vague. I can agree (in comp) and disagree (in comp).
If 'universe' denotes the big whole, by definition it has no input nor
output, and so is equivalent with the unique function from nothing to
nothing. The empty function = { }.
So "universe" is already an intensional term, and should be handled
with intensional tools, like computer science, modal logic, etc. Then
assuming comp, we can explain how the physical universe appearance is
given by internal modalities, some locally sharable (quanta), and some
not locally sharable (qualia).
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.