On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:18:01 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2013, at 02:31, John Clark wrote: > > > The reason nobody has a answer to the hard problem is that nobody has > clearly explained exactly what the problem is or what the answer is > expected to do. > > > The hard problem is only the antic mind-body problem, and what you say is > that you don't understand it, as it happens frequently. UDA reduces that > problem to the problem of justifying, by a FPI statistics, the belief in > matter by some average relative universal machine/number. > Then the qualia are explained by the logic of self-reference, like the > quanta, but it leads to testable statictics on the quanta, so that we can > test the comp theory theory of consciousness. >
I would disagree in the sense that your definition conflates the hard problem with the explanatory gap - which is hugely common and not a big deal unless you are getting very specific about it. I see the difference between my definition (which I think more or less reflects Chalmers original intent) and the mind/body problem, is that the Hard problem is just the aesthetic problem. Why does the mind have any aesthetic content to begin with? What are colors and flavors doing in a computer program, or neuronal interactions. Of course, there can never be an answer to that, in my opinion, because I see the question is upside down. The programs and neurons are only always within the aesthetic dream of the universe. Craig > Bruno > > > > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.