On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:18:01 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> The reason nobody has a answer to the hard problem is that nobody has 
> clearly explained exactly what the problem is or what the answer is 
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> The hard problem is only the antic mind-body problem, and what you say is 
> that you don't understand it, as it happens frequently. UDA reduces that 
> problem to the problem of justifying, by a FPI statistics, the belief in 
> matter by some average relative universal machine/number. 
> Then the qualia are explained by the logic of self-reference, like the 
> quanta, but it leads to testable statictics on the quanta, so that we can 
> test the comp theory theory of consciousness.
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I would disagree in the sense that your definition conflates the hard 
problem with the explanatory gap - which is hugely common and not a big 
deal unless you are getting very specific about it. I see the difference 
between my definition (which I think more or less reflects Chalmers 
original intent) and the mind/body problem, is that the Hard problem is 
just the aesthetic problem. Why does the mind have any aesthetic content to 
begin with? What are colors and flavors doing in a computer program, or 
neuronal interactions. Of course, there can never be an answer to that, in 
my opinion, because I see the question is upside down. The programs and 
neurons are only always within the aesthetic dream of the universe.

Craig


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