"...since first of all the additional happiness in those non-WW3 branches..." What I mean of course is the additional happiness in the WW3 branches. The non-WW3 branches are much *less* happy right Saibal?
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:49:59 AM UTC+10, Pierz wrote: > > Self-contradictory. You've got to follow your own theories to their > logical conclusions. *Which* Western/third world would have been better off > if WW3 hadn't happened? Since "everything happens" in some branch of the > multiverse, surely there are innumerable branches in which the world is > better off for not having undergone the horrors of WW3. Or are you saying > that, if you summed human happiness in the branches of the hypothetical > branch of the multiverse in which WW3 didn't happen, and compared it to the > sum of human happiness in the branches in which it did, it would be higher > in the ones in which it didn't? Put that way, it becomes a rather absurd > claim wouldn't you say? And dubious - since first of all the additional > happiness in those non-WW3 branches has to make up for the staggering, > unimaginable misery of the holocaust, the Russian front, Hiroshima etc etc > before "getting ahead" at all, and secondly because this is all based on > the theory that Nazism not being "debunked" (It was exterminated) would > have led to an incorporation of fascist ideology into the mainstream of > global social organization, an extremely debatable proposition. Extremism > is fostered by economic desperation. If the world had had time to fully > recover from the depression, notions of invading the world would have > looked a lot less attractive to the fat, comfortable citizens of an > affluent western Europe, and Nazism may well have died a quiet death > without the need for apocalypse. But of course I won't argue that's what > *would* have happened, because making predictions about the consequences of > any single event or change in world history is impossible. If you'd like to > disagree, please tell us all what the consequences of the Arab uprisings > will be in twenty years' time. We'll check back in then and see how well > you performed. > > On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:56:57 AM UTC+10, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: >> >> Roger may start a discussion on politics and presents some very narrow >> minded views, but I can present a different view that may be totally >> politically incorect but is i.m.o. the right view. >> >> Not only is the 3rd World better off with WWII having happened, the >> Western World is also better off. Without WWII, Nazism would not have >> been debunked and we would gradually have evolved to become less free >> societies. Ideas that are totally politically incorrect like >> euthanizing old and handicap people to save health care costs would >> have been business as usual. >> >> The fundamental mistake Roger makes is to think that the core moral >> values we have today are universal and that you can look back many >> decades and then condemn e.g. the Muslim Brotherhood for having >> supported the Nazis back then. >> >> In the end, Roger's brain is just executing a prgram, whatever is >> against his moral values is encoded in his brain and that information >> did not come out of thin air. Had history run a different course (and >> history has run a different course in different sectors of the >> multiverse), Roger would have supported Nazi policies himself. In fact >> we can be sure that such a Nazi version of Roger exsts in the >> multiverse, because all possible programs exists. >> >> Saibal >> >> >> Citeren spudb...@aol.com: >> >> > I do not see why Roger, needs, politics in this forum, but, so be it. >> > Smitra expresses a view that decides the US, has to be ruined for the >> > evil it has conspired against the wonderful, and innocent, people's >> > of the 3rd world. I am guessing that when the ISI strikes India, >> > using enhanced fission devices, he will be content that they detonate >> > it only on legitimate military targets? Enjoy. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> >> > To: everything-list <everyth...@googlegroups.com> >> > Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 8:13 am >> > Subject: Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood >> > >> > >> > Also I believe that 9/11 was a good thing, albeit it would have been >> > etter if Bin Laden had focusses only on legitimate military targets >> > ike the White House, the US Congress, the Senate and the Pentagon. >> > >> > iteren Roger Clough <rcl...@verizon.net>: >> >> >> > The Nazi history of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood >> > >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jk4a3Kk6-Y >> > >> > Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) 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