Yeah. Mach was the big physicist and thermodynamicist, Mach's Principle. All I 
am saying that often in public discourses' I will see physicists, very hard 
case ones. delve into logical possitivism. They may also enjoy frosted flakes, 
as well, but the do the LP dance sometimes. But, what of it? It's simply my 
experience of these chats. I do really like it when philosophers do go deep 
into the sciences though. It clicks for me. 



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Do they deny the existence of electrons? quarks? as Mach denied atoms.

Brent



On 9/7/2013 3:52 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:


Yet, there's lots of scientists in public forums like this, who embrace logical 
positivism. I am not saying this is a good thing, but something I have 
experienced. 
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On 9/7/2013 12:40 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

That's right. I´m not joking if i say that the thing that discredited 
philosophers definitively was relativity, quantum mechanics and their 
realization: the atomic bomb. That is the event that raised physicalism, a 
branch of logical positivism and analytical philosophy, and discredited any 
other way of thinking.

If by "physicalism" you mean the meta- of physics, then it's not positivism.  
Positivism hasn't been considered a good meta-physics since Mach.  Too many 
unobservable things: atoms, photons, quarks, virtual particles,... turned out 
to make good empirical models.

Brent

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