Dear Russell, the Peat book seems to be on the physicist's side, just as the Hiley-book (posthumus D.Bohm co-authored) which even pictures DB close to his 1952 image when his idea started to eliminate the differences of QM and Relativity... I have a - sort of - high level science-reportage: by Reneé Weber: "Dialogues with Scientists and Sages" (Arkana, 1986) with a reasonable chapter with Bohm - also his references towards Krishnamurti and others. I cannot activate my old computer's stuff on a discussion list stuff called: 'Friends of David Bohm' (early 90s) with lots of details of his stuff.
My idea was the connection to Bishop Nicolaus de Cusa's 3 part world (implicare, explicare, complicare - where I figured the 3rd one as math) base for his protegé: Copernicus, saving the latter from the Inquisition - the way I deduced it from "Wholeness...", a tortuous 2 decade path. I think the 'Explicate Order' is our physical-world figment, while from the 'Implicate' I erased the 'Order' in my mind: no knowledge about that part so to speak. An 'order' would be exaggerated. After changing into a (similarly heretic?) Rosenite, the Bohm details faded. My agnostic views give me the peace of mind in an extended "I dunno". I have a vague idea how to figure the infinity of the complexity (the one(?) beyond our conventional science 'model' of the world) - but only in terms of our knowable items - no hint how the 'beyond model' may be structured (if at all) and of what kind elements. John M On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]>wrote: > I've just been reading a book that I procured at a school fete called > "Science, Order and Creativity", by David Bohm and David Peat. > > I had read "Wholeness and the implicate order" in my youth, which on > the whole was confusing and unsatisfying. In many ways, this book is > too. Yet, I can't quite shake the feeling when reading that there must > be some connection between Bohm's implicate order and Hofstaedter's > strange loops, and so that he might be onto something important for an > understanding of creativity and consciousness. But his books leave me > unsatisfied and hungry. For one thing, there is too little contact > with the mathematics of QM. > > Does anyone know of a good introduction to Bohm's ideas? It's clear I'm > not going to get it from Bohm himself. > > Cheers > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
