2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > > On 20 Sep 2013, at 11:46, chris peck wrote: > > Hi Bruno > > Im not all that wrapped by Popper's method possibly because I have a > background in the soft sciences where I think it is much harder to devise > falsifiable statements. Other minds being unobservable and all that... > > I like Popper's critiques of other thinkers. His destruction of Hegel in > 'Open Society' is brutal and convincing and his analysis of Marx tempered, > fair and exhaustive. > > > Hmm... OK. I agree even on his critics on Plato, but Plato remains correct > on the main things, and this he failed to see (for reason I get when > reading his philosophy of mind and of matter). > > I now consider the critic of plato and Hegel naive, because popper start from a reductionist standpoint that I can not accept simply because I don´t want to reject part of the reality that conform the reality that I perceive, and no pretty method, demarcation or fancy system can make me get rid of it. And Plato, as a philosophical realist pointed to real problems that Popper don´t even begin to understand when he wrote the open society and their enemies.
That is not true of the latter Popper which helped to develop evolutionary epistemology. I consider myself a follower of evolutionary epistemology with all their consequences. In particular, there are strong statements that can be made from the point of view of EEP that complement/challenge the Plato and Aristotelian philosophy. For example, the world of the ideas is, according with EEP the universal, species-specific forms a priory created in the human mind by the process of natural selection. This is a paraphrase of Konrad Lorenz (other evolutiorary epistemologist) talking about the Kantian a prioris. In the other side I talked about the inevitable convergence, following EEP, between the notions of existence, what is good and what is beautiful > > I like that he favours doubt over certainty and argues for that as a > socially organising principle. I dont like that he puts science (as he > defines it) on a pedestal. Funny that he is known for his take on science. > His politics is more important I think. > > I read that you didn't like Feyerabend which I found odd given how your > system challenges modern dogma so heavily. > > > Hmm .... I feel myself as being more like conservative. A platonist > conservative, even a Pythagorean one, thanks to Church thesis. > > > > I dont think any other method would leap so readily to defend its right > to be brought into the scientific fold and I often read you complaining of > current dogmas. > > > > I truly complain on *all* dogma. I complain that some scientist have dogma > when they pretend they not. I am really only an (applied) logician, and all > what I give is a reasoning showing that IF we are digitalizable machine, > THEN physicalism is wrong. I have heard about some flaws in the argument, > but when I ask them I get silence or non valid argument using assumptions > that I do not use. > Many scientists, who have never really thought on the mind-body problem, > seems to believe that science has decided between Aristotle and Plato, on > the nature of reality, but this is pure non sense. We are much more > ignorant than what they imagine. > > > > > I would have thought him to be a choice thinker for this list generally. > > > It seems leading to some relativism, and he is not enough Popperian for me. > > Best, > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
