2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> > > On 20 Sep 2013, at 11:46, chris peck wrote: > > Hi Bruno > > Im not all that wrapped by Popper's method possibly because I have a > background in the soft sciences where I think it is much harder to devise > falsifiable statements. Other minds being unobservable and all that... > > I like Popper's critiques of other thinkers. His destruction of Hegel in > 'Open Society' is brutal and convincing and his analysis of Marx tempered, > fair and exhaustive. > > > Hmm... OK. I agree even on his critics on Plato, but Plato remains correct > on the main things, and this he failed to see (for reason I get when > reading his philosophy of mind and of matter). > > I now consider the critic of plato and Hegel naive, because popper start from a reductionist standpoint that I can not accept simply because I don´t want to reject part of the reality that conform the reality that I perceive, and no pretty method, demarcation or fancy system can make me get rid of it. And Plato, as a philosophical realist pointed to real problems that Popper don´t even begin to understand when he wrote the open society and their enemies.
That is not true of the latter Popper which helped to develop evolutionary epistemology. I consider myself a follower of evolutionary epistemology with all their consequences. In particular, there are strong statements that can be made from the point of view of EEP that complement/challenge the Plato and Aristotelian philosophy. For example, the world of the ideas is, according with EEP the universal, species-specific forms a priory created in the human mind by the process of natural selection. This is a paraphrase of Konrad Lorenz (other evolutiorary epistemologist) talking about the Kantian a prioris. In the other side I talked about the inevitable convergence, following EEP, between the notions of existence, what is good and what is beautiful > > I like that he favours doubt over certainty and argues for that as a > socially organising principle. I dont like that he puts science (as he > defines it) on a pedestal. Funny that he is known for his take on science. > His politics is more important I think. > > I read that you didn't like Feyerabend which I found odd given how your > system challenges modern dogma so heavily. > > > Hmm .... I feel myself as being more like conservative. A platonist > conservative, even a Pythagorean one, thanks to Church thesis. > > > > I dont think any other method would leap so readily to defend its right > to be brought into the scientific fold and I often read you complaining of > current dogmas. > > > > I truly complain on *all* dogma. I complain that some scientist have dogma > when they pretend they not. I am really only an (applied) logician, and all > what I give is a reasoning showing that IF we are digitalizable machine, > THEN physicalism is wrong. I have heard about some flaws in the argument, > but when I ask them I get silence or non valid argument using assumptions > that I do not use. > Many scientists, who have never really thought on the mind-body problem, > seems to believe that science has decided between Aristotle and Plato, on > the nature of reality, but this is pure non sense. We are much more > ignorant than what they imagine. > > > > > I would have thought him to be a choice thinker for this list generally. > > > It seems leading to some relativism, and he is not enough Popperian for me. > > Best, > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.