On 10/4/2013 9:46 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 5 October 2013 12:53, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 10/4/2013 7:18 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:


On Friday, October 4, 2013, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/3/2013 5:07 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

You seem to be agreeing with Craig that each neuron alone is conscious.

The experiment relates to replacement of neurons which play some part
in consciousness. The 1% remaining neurons are part of a system which
will notice that the qualia are different.

That assumes that 1% are sufficient to remember all the prior qualia with
enough fidelity to notice they are different.

No, I assume the system of which the neurons are a part will notice a
difference. If not, then the replacement has not changed the qualia.

I don't understand that.  If the system can notice a difference, why does it
need that 1%?  Why can't it detect a difference with 0% of the original
remaining?  What's the 1% doing?
The question is whether swapping out part of the system for a
functional equivalent will change the qualia the system experiences
without changing the behaviour. I don't think this is possible, for if
the qualia change the subject would (at least) notice

That's the point I find questionable. Why couldn't some qualia change in minor ways and the system *not* notice because the system doesn't have any absolute memory to which it can compare qualia. Have you ever gone back to a house you lived in as a small child? Looks a lot smaller doesn't it.


and say that the
qualia have changed, which constitutes a change in behaviour.
Therefore, the qualia and the behaviour are somehow inextricably
linked. The alternative, that the qualia are substrate dependent,
can't work.

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