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On 16 November 2013 09:54, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Liz, Global temperatures fell from 1950 to 1980 while CO2 atm content was > rising. Can you explain that? Richard > > Why should I? This is a complex system with an uncontrolled experiment running in it. Since I was born the CO2 has gone up 25%, that is a major piece of unintended planetary engineering, the effects of CO2 on solar irradiance are well understood, and on average the global temperature is going up just as predicted. There is a real, measurable effect, as the firefighters of Australia and the entire population of the Phillippines (amongst many, many others already affected by it) can tell you. Denying its existence means being blind to the data - the (hehe) cold, hard facts. Questioning the *reason *for it is at least somewhat sensible, though becoming less so as emissions increase more rapidly and temperatures do likewise, by what must seem to some people like, wow, what an amazing coincidence. The main question is, what (if anything) can we do about it, preferably before the oceans above the thermocline warm the 2 degrees required to bring gigatonnes of methane out of suspension? PS on the subject of the plateau shown above - maybe those other factors deniers are always going on about were involved? Pollution increasing the Earth's albedo, solar cycles, something to do with the second world war or nuclear testing, whatever? Show me a graph measured by NASA or the Arctic Institute where the temperature (and preferably the CO2) go back to their 1900 level and you'll have something worth discussing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
