On 06 Dec 2013, at 18:21, Quentin Anciaux wrote:




2013/12/6 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>


On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:




2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote: A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a religion.



Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.

Could you give an example of a religion without dogma ?


My own, for one.

If you're alone, it's not a religion. A religion is not just a set of belief, but it comes with codification, and also those codifications /beliefs are shared between members of that religion.

That was the case for arithmetic at the beginning. Knowledge/belief was for an elite with strct secrecy code, and you could be killed if you transmit a secret. It is still the case for a lot of information today.




What you call religion are a just set of beliefs. As the usage of god for UR, dogma for hypothesis, using religion for that is bad... it's just to make a giant salad with word that lose their intended meanings.

When we suspect "the intended meaning" to have been already over- popularized and deformed, under some poltical goals, it might be good to come back to the original intended meaning.

Bruno




Quentin

Also the founders of the bathai faith were quite clear that any true religion must respect the science of the day, otherwise they said, it falls into superstition. They also said without religion science falls into materialism.

Jason

Quentin


How do you relate science to beliefs about the world and reality? Would you say science the collection of those beliefs, or the method for developing the beliefs?

Jason


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