On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Materialistic theories of consciousness can only describe experience, not
> deal with experience itself.

Consciousness theories are a dime a dozen and materialistic theories
explain consciousness every bit as well as non-materialist theories. And in
the vastly more difficult matter of coming up with intelligence theories
materialists are far better and keep getting better every year, while
non-materialist try to peddle the exact same useless religious crap they
have for millennium.  So why do otherwise smart people believe in this
non-materialist claptrap? One reason and one reason only, their mommy and
daddy told them it was true when they were still pooping in their pants.

  John K Clark

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