On 8 December 2013 07:26, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Materialistic theories of consciousness can only describe experience,
>> not deal with experience itself.
>>
>
> Consciousness theories are a dime a dozen and materialistic theories
> explain consciousness every bit as well as non-materialist theories. And in
> the vastly more difficult matter of coming up with intelligence theories
> materialists are far better and keep getting better every year, while
> non-materialist try to peddle the exact same useless religious crap they
> have for millennium.  So why do otherwise smart people believe in this
> non-materialist claptrap? One reason and one reason only, their mommy and
> daddy told them it was true when they were still pooping in their pants.
>
> Could you name a materialistic theory that explains consciousness (or a
theorist who does so) ? I've not come across any who do much of a job
(Dennett for example tries to explain that consciousness doesn't exist,
which doesn't quite cut it for me).

Thanks!

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