On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>> > Comp is the belief (hope, assumption, theory) that you can survive when
>> > saying yes to a doctor who proposed to you a digital computer brain
>> > transplant.
>
>
> If that were all "comp" meant I would have no problem with it, but I know
> from bitter experience that "comp" also includes all sorts of other things
> (many contradictory) and it includes all the bogus conclusions from your
> pronoun rich erroneous proof. So that is why I refuse to use your homemade
> term "comp" and don't know what you mean when you use it.
>
>> > Of course to get this, you should put your shoes in the first person
>> > picture, and stay in it for awhile,
>
>
> And that's a good example of such a contradiction right there. If it were
> possible to "put your shoes in the first person picture, and stay in it for
> awhile" then only a fool would say "yes" to a doctor in the above
> definition; but in a world with duplicating machines that simply can't be
> done because you've got 2 identical pairs of shoes and no way to know which
> pair to put your feet into.

If you believe in what you said above, there are only two options left:

- you must also reject the MWI, because you live in the first person,
so you must know that it is indeed possible to "put your shoes in the
first person picture, and stay in it for awhile" -- in fact you know
it's the only possibility;
- you are a zombie.

Telmo.

> In all your thought experiments you make the hidden assumption that the
> duplicating machines can make a exact copy of everything in the universe
> EXCEPT for a pair of shoes,  and so there is only one unique pair of shoes
> that one can put ones feet into, the mighty original. But as for me I see
> nothing special about the original and see no reason shoes can't be
> duplicated just like everything else.
>
>   John K Clark
>
>
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