On 12/16/2013 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:45 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:On 12/16/2013 8:52 PM, LizR wrote:On 17 December 2013 16:22, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com <mailto:stephe...@provensecure.com>> wrote: Dear LizR, That is exactly the point that I wanted to make: 'There couldn't be an observer in such a universe, it's far too simple." There could not be one wherefore "he could deduce the existence of 17 theoretically, and work out its properties" is impossible: probability zero. I can't see the significance of this argument. If we take a large enough number, say 10^80, that observers /can /exist, we can then ask whether such observers could work out the properties of numbers greater than 10^80.Can we? Whenever I add 1 to 10^80 I get 10^80 in spite of Peano.Use a programming language such as python or Java which supports big integers. It willlet you add 1 to 10^80.

`I know. I was just taking 10^80 to mean "a very big number" which of course depends on`

`context. I generally do applied physics and engineering and so 10^80+1 = 10^80 for`

`physical variables.`

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