# Re: How can a grown man be an atheist ?

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On 17 Dec 2013, at 06:50, Stephen Paul King wrote:```
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I do not assume that computations can occur if there are no physical means to implement them. My imagination that s 270 digit string is prime is not equivalent to actually doing the computation that tests for primeness.
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Are you OK that such a 270 digits number is prime or not prime?
Are you OK that all natural numbers are either prime or not prime?

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To believe in the necessity of a primary physical universe, is equivalent, for a computationalist, with picking one universal number, and stating that it is the real one. With comp, if that is the real one, we have still to justify it by showing that it is the only one given the right measure with respect to the mind-body measure problem. If not, that Universe is just a fairy tale explaining nothing at all, and putting the mind-body problem under the rug. It is like ignoring the (comp) mind-body problem.
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Bruno

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com > wrote: No, your making the mistake of identifying a representation of a thing with the thing. The symbol 10^80 does not have 10^80 components, so to act as it is does...
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Tell me this, is the following (270 digit) number prime:

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332694894848329434549105787414873502606112802712440024745636803095039036420080826797726325643727533347094562684200739500429461145303257192536463211027218435305302565244506232330240506160052373297550819467601665370364223791626506805746132690937677414 846877090853919880937
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Either it is or it isn't. If it is, then this is no different from the case of 17 being prime (even if the universe had only 16 objects).
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Jason

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