I read Edgar's book and it is entirely words and mostly assertions- no math at all. In my opinion that makes his book not credible Richard
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > All, > > Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include > theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that > reality includes everything that exists and theories of reality most > certainly exist. Roger and Bruno seem to be coming from the old dualistic > definition of reality in which some things (generally the 'physical' world) > are real and some things aren't real (generally thoughts e.g. about the > physical world). > > While this dualistic definition of reality may be useful in daily life it > fails on the philosophical level. In truth the entirety of reality is > computational and both 'physical' events and mental are both part of that > same single computational nexus. Roger gives the example of hitting a table > with his fist as something that is real as opposed to a theory about > reality which isn't but in fact the reality of the experience of both is > electrical signals (information computations) in the brain. They are both > computations in the brain. > > The proper definition is that everything that exists is real and therefore > part of reality. Everything that exists is a computationally evolving > information state in reality and that is why it is real, however its > reality is exactly what it actually is, what its computational forms > actually are, and this is true for everything including both what our minds > interpret as 'physical' events and 'mental'. If you must make that > distinction then of course everything without exception in our thoughts and > experience is mental, but the deeper truth is that its all computationally > evolving information however it's interpreted by our minds. > > Thus the only philosophically consistent definition of reality includes > everything that exists without exception, including thoughts and theories. > > But there is a deeper truth here in that reality itself exists > independently of its particular contents as a thing in itself. In fact > prior to the big bang it was empty of any actualized information at all, > but it still existed in a state similar to a generalized quantum vacuum. > > This reality itself is what makes the computations that occur within it > real and actual and have being, it is what gives them life. It is what I > call 'Ontological Energy' which is simply the (non-physical) space of > reality whose presence manifests as the present moment in which we and > everything exists. All the computationally evolving information that exists > exists like waves, ripples and currents in the sea of existence itself, in > the ocean of ontological energy, the logical space or locus of reality and > actuality. > > Reality is a single ocean of ontological energy and everything that exists > exists as a computationally evolving information form within it. There is > nothing outside of it because there is no outside. Therefore there is no > possibility of anything being 'not real' or not part of reality. There is > only the different categories of reality of different information forms > within reality. > > Edgar > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
