Why and How does all exist?
 
Samiya

On 25-Dec-2013, at 8:21 PM, "Edgar L. Owen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bruno, and Samiya,
> 
> Because there can be no creator sustainer God that stands outside the 
> universe. Where would he/it stand? That's an irrational belief from millennia 
> ago. The universe by definition is all that exists...
> 
> Edgar
> 
> On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:10:30 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>> 
>> All, 
>> 
>> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some 
>> definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise 
>> everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. 
>> 
>> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that is 
>> to just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute 
>> certainty that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments 
>> vanish), and second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of 
>> science and reason rather than ideology, faith or myth. 
>> 
>> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all 
>> atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, 
>> should have been discarded millennia ago.... 
>> 
>> Edgar
> 
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