There simply is no physical universe. The universe is information being 
computed in OE only. Physical universes are interpretations of the actual 
information universe in organismic minds. That is their only reality. They 
are mental models or simulations of the actual information reality, and 
they also as parts of that information reality are themselves also only 


On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:10:30 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> All, 
> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving 
> some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise 
> everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. 
> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that 
> is to just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute 
> certainty that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments 
> vanish), and second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of 
> science and reason rather than ideology, faith or myth. 
> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all 
> atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, 
> should have been discarded millennia ago.... 
> Edgar 

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