On 25 December 2013 19:29, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not define God as the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe and
> Everything Else that is or may exist?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 4:20 AM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Pantheism, Why didn't you just come out and say so? :-D
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>
>> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: 24-Dec-2013 13:16:11 +0000
>> Subject: God or not?
>>
>>  All,
>>
>> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some
>> definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise 
>> everyone is
>> talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.
>>
>> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that is 
>> to
>> just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute certainty
>> that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments vanish), and
>> second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of science and 
>> reason
>> rather than ideology, faith or myth.
>>
>> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all 
>> atavistic
>> myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, should have 
>> been
>> discarded millennia ago....
>>
>> Edgar
>>
>>
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