On 28 December 2013 17:46, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>wrote:
> Ah, but they do degrade. Consider your ability to access a '80s floppy > drive's data. > > Well, that's because people haven't worked out how to do it perfectly. I agree digital archaeology is a real problem, but so would analogue be without the relevant machines to play it back (admittedly it's easier to decode analogue from first principles). But that is a different form of degrading. If you have a system capable of copying the data it should be more or less 100% accurate. > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:44 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 28 December 2013 17:41, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Stephen Paul King < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi LizR and Jason, >>>> >>>> Responding to both of you. I don't understand the claim of >>>> determinism is "random noise" is necessary for the computations. Turing >>>> machines require exact pre-specifiability. Adding noise oracles is >>>> cheating! >>>> >>>> >>> I think you misunderstand. Computers are deterministic, but they often >>> need randomness to implement things such as cryptography or monte-carlo >>> simulations, etc. Due to this need for true unpredictability, our >>> computers must harness environmental noise if they are to have any hope of >>> being unpredictable. This is because computers cannot generate >>> unpredictability on their own. >>> >>> They are engineered not to! This is why digital recordings don't >> degrade, etc. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/sqWzozazMg0/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > > Kindest Regards, > > Stephen Paul King > > Senior Researcher > > Mobile: (864) 567-3099 > > [email protected] > > http://www.provensecure.us/ > > > “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of > the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain > information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and > exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as > attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of > this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message > immediately.” > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
