On Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:42:20 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 28 Dec 2013, at 15:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> "humans are machines unable to recognize the fact that they are machines,"
> Who wrote this?
> *any* ideally correct machines is unable to recognize the fact that they
> are machines.
Just someone on a Facebook thread, I forget who.
Anyone who says yes to the doctor then cannot be an ideally correct machine.
> I would re-word it as 'Humans are not machines but when they introspect on
> their most mechanical aspects mechanistically, they are able to imagine
> that they could be machines who are unable recognize the fact."
> I agree that there is an intrinsic limit to Strong AI, but I think that
> the limit is at the starting gate. Since consciousness is the embodiment of
> uniqueness and unrepeatability, there is no "almost" conscious. It doesn't
> matter how much the artist in the painting looks like he is really painting
> himself in the mirror, or how realistic Escher makes the staircase look,
> those realities are forever sculpted in theory, not in the multisense
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