Dear Liz: you wrote in your PS: "epitheton" is itself an "ornamental
epitheton", I'd say. I do hope it wasn't just a typo!"
I looked up epitheton and found (German) vocabulary meanings without any
hint to an ornamental nature.
In a Google English translational part it appeared as "EPITHET" with the
following text: (still no ornamentalist side-tone)
"The noun epithet is a descriptive nickname, such as "Richard the
Lionhearted," or "Tommy the Terrible." When it takes a turn for the worse, *it
can also be a word or phrase that offends*."
"Don’t let *epithet’s* bad reputation fool you — that’s only half the
story. An epithet can be harmless, a nickname that catches on, like all
hockey fans knowing that "Sid the Kid" is Sidney Crosby. On the flip side, *an
epithet can be an abusive word or phrase* that should never be used, like a
racial epithet that offends and angers everyone."
It included *'epithet ornans'*. I found no hint to any 'ornamental' meaning
included. Did you mean that 'ornamental' serves the same addition as the
(unspecified) epitheton? I wanted to emphasize my appreciative cognotion of
that (not too benevolent) characterization by the reviewer..
JM
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 December 2013 10:38, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Liz,
>> as a former ed-in-chief of a science magazine (Ion Exchange and
>> Membranes) I know the difficulties one can run into if trying to get
>> peer-review approval on "NEW" ideas that do not fit into the conventional
>> scientific fabric of college courses. I was a risk-taker and provided space
>> for several new ideas that made sens - to me. ('Let the readership decide
>> and debate').
>>
>
> There are two things being presented here. One is an idea which is fine in
> itself - reality is computed. It isn't obviously self-contradictory, and
> has I think been suggested quite a few times in various flavours (I'm sure
> Conway must have come up with this, as have Russell Standish, I think, and
> Bruno of course, plus probably some other people). It's a fairly obvious
> idea for the age - "it steam-engines when it comes steam engine time" or
> whatever.
>
> The other is a Newtonian theory of time. This contradicts special
> relativity, and hence is an "extraordinary claim". This claim has not yet
> had any support that shows its author understands what the problems with it
> are. Hence it not only "doesn't fit into the scientific fabric of college
> courses", it flatly contradicts everything we've learned about reality
> since 1905 - all the experimental confirmation of SR, the whole lot. That
> should require extraordinary evidence before it is worth considering.
>
>>
>> Sometimes new ideas (versions?) do not fit into the 'reductionistic'
>> conventional stuff of the Rosenesque MODEL content, limited to the already
>> known inventory of science etc. While it does not support the 'new' ideas,
>> it does not prove them wrong by itself, either.
>>
>
> There is no contradiction between Edgar's theory and reductionism, it is a
> reductionist theory. What proves (or comes very close to proving) Edgar's
> theory of time wrong is that it contradicts most of 20th century physics,
> both theoretical and experimental. His theory of computational reality
> isn't itself rendered wrong by the "known inventory of science" of course.
> (By the way, your use of these buzz phrases does rather suggest that you
> are pushing an agenda here. Science is far more than you are trying to make
> out - it isn't all conventional, blinkered fuddy-duddies dismissing
> crackpot ideas, but has room for plenty of outrageous speculation - as long
> as it is properly grounded, doesn't flat-out contradict a century of
> experimentation, etc.)
>
>>
>> I submitted a paper once with some 'mild' novelty (J. of Consciousness
>> Sci) and an irate (conservative) reviewer called me a
>> "homespun fireside philosopher" - an ornamental epitheton I value highly
>> ever since.
>>
>> Always easiest to think your opponents have dismissed your ideas because
> they are "conservative" (or "bourgeois", or "heretics" or whatever
> epitheton you wish to apply) -- rather than because just maybe they knew
> more about the subject, and could see where your ideas were wrong.
>
> PS "epitheton" is itself an "ornamental epitheton", I'd say. I do hope it
> wasn't just a typo!
>
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