On 3 January 2014 09:56, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > > Now let me suggest another conceptual approach which might make the notion > of Present moment P-time easier to understand. >
Ahem, naughty Edgar, the credit for this suggestion should have gone to me since I've been pointing this out from the start. > > Begin before relativity with the old Newtonian notion of time. There is an > absolute standard time throughout the universe and an absolute common > universal present moment. Everything about time is Newtonian to start with. > > Now imagine relativistic time theory comes along and proves that clocks > weren't measuring that old Newtonian time but something else called > relativistic clock time instead, BUT that the old Newtonian time still > exists. It just isn't measured by clock time. > > That old Newtonian time still exists and is what I call Present moment > P-time. It just isn't being measured by clocks. So long as there were no > relativistic effects clock time was isomorphic to P-time, but as soon as > relativistic effects appeared it became clear that clock time was never > measuring Present moment P-time. Nevertheless Present moment P-time > actually still exists just as everyone clearly experiences it does. It just > isn't measured by clock time. > > All relativity did was separate clock time from Present moment P-time and > prove they weren't the same thing. It didn't make Present moment P-time go > away, it just showed it wasn't the same as clock time. > > Just think this through. It's quite clear for all the reasons I've put > forth already, the basic proof being that clock times vary in the same > Present moment which proves they aren't the same thing. > What actually happened was that Newtonian time effectively set c to infinity. Relativity merely demonstrated the results of c being finite (where c is any maximum attainable speed, by the way - it happens to be lightspeed in a vaccuum). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.