On 3 January 2014 09:56, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Now let me suggest another conceptual approach which might make the notion > of Present moment P-time easier to understand. >
Ahem, naughty Edgar, the credit for this suggestion should have gone to me since I've been pointing this out from the start. > > Begin before relativity with the old Newtonian notion of time. There is an > absolute standard time throughout the universe and an absolute common > universal present moment. Everything about time is Newtonian to start with. > > Now imagine relativistic time theory comes along and proves that clocks > weren't measuring that old Newtonian time but something else called > relativistic clock time instead, BUT that the old Newtonian time still > exists. It just isn't measured by clock time. > > That old Newtonian time still exists and is what I call Present moment > P-time. It just isn't being measured by clocks. So long as there were no > relativistic effects clock time was isomorphic to P-time, but as soon as > relativistic effects appeared it became clear that clock time was never > measuring Present moment P-time. Nevertheless Present moment P-time > actually still exists just as everyone clearly experiences it does. It just > isn't measured by clock time. > > All relativity did was separate clock time from Present moment P-time and > prove they weren't the same thing. It didn't make Present moment P-time go > away, it just showed it wasn't the same as clock time. > > Just think this through. It's quite clear for all the reasons I've put > forth already, the basic proof being that clock times vary in the same > Present moment which proves they aren't the same thing. > What actually happened was that Newtonian time effectively set c to infinity. Relativity merely demonstrated the results of c being finite (where c is any maximum attainable speed, by the way - it happens to be lightspeed in a vaccuum). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

