Quentin,

That's not the argument. As you stated it it isn't even in the form of the 
logical sequence an argument requires.

You are just stating your opinion on a part of my theory, not being able to 
reference the specific argument in question you claim is invalid.

Edgar



On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 6:28:33 PM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> 2014/1/15 Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>>
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>> Liz,
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>> Do you know what my argument is? Quentin also claimed it was invalid but 
>> he couldn't tell us what the argument is that he claims is invalid. 
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> You're joking ? I didn't ? I explicitely refer your BS common universal 
> present which is contrary to what SR *claims*... How arrogant can you be ?
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> Quentin
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>> Do you know?
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>> Edgar
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>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 5:41:43 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
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>>> On 16 January 2014 07:26, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> Jason,
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>>>> 1. First I demonstrated that SR falsifies block time (by requiring a 
>>>> moving arrow of time and a present moment), so since SR is well verified 
>>>> block time is false.
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>>> SR doesn't require a moving arrow of time, and the present moment is 
>>> only defined for a given location in space-time.
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>>>>
>>>> 2. I asked you around a dozen questions each homing in on another 
>>>> problem with block time. I received no convincing answers to any of them 
>>>> that I recall. Basically you just told me they weren't really problems 
>>>> without giving any reasons why not.
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>>> Since your point 1 is false, you couldn't have asked any meaningful 
>>> questions. 
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>>>> 3. Then I asked you to clarify a couple of aspects of the structure of 
>>>> block time (e.g. is it a continuum or sequential frames) which you were 
>>>> unable to provide.
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>>> In SR it's a continuum. 
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>>>>
>>>> Please understand I'm not singling you out here. The problem is not so 
>>>> much with your explanations as with the theory itself which is just not 
>>>> tenable and which of course you are not responsible for....
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, the idea of block time was proposed by Newton (I 
>>> think he called it the sensorium of God, or something like that) and was 
>>> later used by Laplace, Einstein and Minkowski.
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>>> Since your point 1 is false, you failed to falsify block time. If you 
>>> *can* show that SR requires a moving arrow of time, or whatever, then 
>>> SR may invalidate block time, but it hasn't yet.
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