On 24 January 2014 14:01, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear LizR,
>
>    The infinite nesting of boxes is one of the possible products of the
> process that Kauffman is laboring to explain. It can be equally applied to
> the construction of the natural numbers by starting with the null set and
> adding layers of brackets, or by the von Neumann 
> constructor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number#A_standard_construction>,
> or symbols systems that make reference to themselves, ... It is, IMHO, a
> way of mathematically representing the Heraclitean notion of 
> Flux<http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heraclitus/#Flu>
> .
>
> I'd say an infinite tower of boxes is exactly opposite to the Heraclitean
notion of Flux! Also, the von Neumann constructor (and similar systems)
don't *start* with an infinite nesting. So all a bit confusing. Still ...
maybe you could explain what he's getting at better than he can?

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