On 27 Jan 2014, at 19:43, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/27/2014 2:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jan 2014, at 02:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/26/2014 3:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I have provided the definition. Should I repeat?
God is the transcendental reality we bet on, and which is
supposed to be responsible for my or our existence.
Sounds like "physics" to me.
Yes. if you believe "theologically" that physics is the ultimate
explanation of our existence.
If physics is your theology,
No, physics is the scientific search for what is fundamental.
If God = Matter. (Matter with a big "M" is the metaphysical primitive
aristotelian matter).
Physics is the science of prediction. To identify physics with
fundamental science is the *assumption* of physicalism, or
metaphysical naturalism. It is part, not of the physics of Aristotle,
but of its theology.
Theology is the defense of the idea that god is what is fundamental.
Theology, the science, has to be neutral on this, because there are
too much open question to conclude anything at this stage.
God is what is fundamental by definition, and this makes you
assumption describable: "God = Matter".
Physics puts no constraint on what is fundamental except that it can
studied in a public way.
Physics = the study of Nature, and usually physicalism assumes some
nature having some ontological (primitive) status.
then the UDA shows that it is a non-mechanist theology.
It's non-material - but as you often point out "material" is
undefined.
You can't say "yes" to the doctor, as you can't survive the
substitution "qua computatio". You need some magic properties of
the physical object to do that.
Why do I need any more magic than the magic that was in the neurons
or molecules, which are physical?
But this follows from step seven or step 8. We might need to come back
on this.
If not, you cannot distinguish the 1p in a physical reality and the
1p in the arithmetical reality.
Why should they be distinct?
Well, if they are not distinct, you have to explain the stability of
the physical laws by a measure on all computations existing in
arithmetic.
Bruno
Brent
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