On 27 Jan 2014, at 19:43, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/27/2014 2:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 27 Jan 2014, at 02:08, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/26/2014 3:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I have provided the definition. Should I repeat?
God is the transcendental reality we bet on, and which is supposed to be responsible for my or our existence.

Sounds like "physics" to me.

Yes. if you believe "theologically" that physics is the ultimate explanation of our existence.

If physics is your theology,

No, physics is the scientific search for what is fundamental.

If God = Matter. (Matter with a big "M" is the metaphysical primitive aristotelian matter).

Physics is the science of prediction. To identify physics with fundamental science is the *assumption* of physicalism, or metaphysical naturalism. It is part, not of the physics of Aristotle, but of its theology.



Theology is the defense of the idea that god is what is fundamental.

Theology, the science, has to be neutral on this, because there are too much open question to conclude anything at this stage. God is what is fundamental by definition, and this makes you assumption describable: "God = Matter".




Physics puts no constraint on what is fundamental except that it can studied in a public way.

Physics = the study of Nature, and usually physicalism assumes some nature having some ontological (primitive) status.




then the UDA shows that it is a non-mechanist theology.

It's non-material - but as you often point out "material" is undefined.

You can't say "yes" to the doctor, as you can't survive the substitution "qua computatio". You need some magic properties of the physical object to do that.

Why do I need any more magic than the magic that was in the neurons or molecules, which are physical?

But this follows from step seven or step 8. We might need to come back on this.





If not, you cannot distinguish the 1p in a physical reality and the 1p in the arithmetical reality.

Why should they be distinct?

Well, if they are not distinct, you have to explain the stability of the physical laws by a measure on all computations existing in arithmetic.

Bruno




Brent

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