On 27 Jan 2014, at 18:06, John Clark wrote:




On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:55 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Refer to my discourse on solving "the hard problem".

Forget about solving it, I would much rather read a discourse that clearly and unambiguously explains exactly what "the hard problem" is.

In a nutshell, the difficulty is that a complete 3p explanation of the brain seems to make consciousness into something having no role and no reason, and this contradicts the first person experience we have.




Exactly what is it that you expect a successful consciousness theory to do?

To explain the line above, or to explain why we cannot answer the line above. Then comp + the definition of knowledge by Theaetetus does excatly that. It explains 99%9 of the above, and explain completely why something has to look incomprehensible.



I think consciousness is probably just the way information feels when it is being processed;

In which computations. You admit yourself that consciousness cannot be localized in one brain, in case two identical brains process the same information at some level. So your answer is too much naive. You should see this when in the mode that the First Person Indeterminacy exists.




if you don't find that explanation satisfactory it can only mean one thing, you don't believe that consciousness is fundamental.

Good point. Consciousness can't be fundamental, especially in theories trying to explain it.

Bruno



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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