On 27 Jan 2014, at 21:48, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
"it was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."


This makes my point. Einstein illustrates that you can believe in a non personal God.

No. That Einstein does not believe in a personal god does not entail that he does believe in an impersonal god.

Of course.

But Einstein has heavily insisted all his life that he does believe in the good Lord. The quote given by John Clark comes from Einstein insisting that he does not believe in a personal God, that he made when people misused his assertion of his belief in God.

(Einstein is of course a bit sloppy when describing his non personal god as a good Lord, but that's just a poetical means, like Plotinus calling the ONE "father": it was just a way to attract Christians to Neoplatonism).




That's a pretty sloppy inference for a logician, and you do it twice more.

Read Jammer's book if you have any doubt that Einstein was not a believer in God (yet not in a personal or institutionalized God). Einstein will reassessed that belief all his life. But he will also condemn all religious institutions, all his life. Unlike Gödel, Einstein will not be interested in digging on this with the scientfic method, but thanks to Gödel, Einstein will eventually be open to the possibility that physics might not be the fundamental science, and that math could be. This is something that I have discovered recently. Einstein did understood a little bit what Gödel tried to explain to him, after all.

Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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