On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:05, LizR wrote:
I hope those are real quotes. There are quite a few fake Einstein
quotes floating around the web.
They were real, but taken out of the context.
But they made my point. Einstein is a believer, but out of
confessional religion. Like Gödel.
Bruno
On 28 January 2014 05:18, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> John should read the book by Jammer on Einstein's religion. 2/3 of
that book is really informative about Einstein's religion.
Rather than read what Jammer had to say try reading what Einstein
himself had to say about God:
"it was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not
believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have
expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called
religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of
the world so far as our science can reveal it."
And:
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything
that could be understood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is
a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very
imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility"
And:
"The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even
naive."
And:
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man
would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of
punishment and hope of reward after death."
And:
"I don't try to imagine a personal God; it suffices to stand in awe
at the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate
senses to appreciate it.”
Although to a far less degree I will admit that Einstein was
sometimes guilty of the same sin that members of this list
habitually commit, falling in love not with the concept but with the
English word "God" when all Einstein meant is "awe at the structure
of the world".
> John seems to be unaware what God was for the greeks,
John is board to death by the Greeks, scornful of their enormous
ignorance and utterly repelled by the unhealthy ancestor worship
that is epidemic on the everything list.
> John acts in a way which is typical for the usual christians.
Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never
heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12.
John K Clark
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