On 01 Feb 2014, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/1/2014 2:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Feb 2014, at 06:48, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/31/2014 9:18 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
We are potentially immortal in the same way as a car can
potentially
survive indefinitely provided parts can be repaired or replaced
indefinitely. At present, we can repair or replace some parts in
the
human body, but not enough to prolong life for more than a few
years.
Actually I think we can make people live indefinitely now. I have
seriously considered starting a business to do this. I certainly
think I can do it more legitimately than those cryogenic
preservation services. What I would do it is gather as much
information about the person as possible. If they were still
alive this would include extensive video recordings and
interviews. Then they would be 3d-modeled in CGI, with adjustment
of age appearance as desired. This model would then be inserted
as an avatar of the person in an artificial CGI world, similar to
many computer games. The avatar would be provided with an AI
based on all the writings, video, interviews etc so that it would
respond like the person modeled in most conversation. It could
access current events etc from the internet so it would be able to
discuss things.
Would the avatar be conscious? According to Bruno it would be if
it's AI were Lobian - which isn't that hard. But really it's
beside the point. AI, such as Watson, could easily appear as
conscious and intelligent as your 90yr old aunt and tell the
stories she tells and exhibit the quirks she has. Would the
avatar be alive? conscious? Who would care? Not the loved ones
that paid to preserve Grandma for future generations.
Anybody want to invest? It'll take big bucks to do it right.
Is that not the normal future of facebook or Linkedin, or personal
family memory?
That is like saying yes to the current doctor, meaning, that the
level is *very* high.
But it will go lower and lower.
Most plausibly.
The children will not be glad. It is already annoying to listen to
grandpa nth account of 14-18, every sunday, but now, you have to
listen to grandpa and grandma, and to their grandgrand-pa, and
their grandgrand-ma, and so one.
But at least you can turn them off.
Are you sure? If, as you say, the level go lower and lower, I am not
sure we have the moral right to turn them off once the level is lower
than the substitution level of the persons concerned.
Chinese have a name for that, it is the cult of ancestors.
It is good, it is human. You can do money but you have to act
quickly, because that emerges naturally from the net.
Exactly. The only thing lagging is the AI.
More or less, but "AI" is a bit relative. I agree with Hofstadter "AI"
is when the program are not yet written, and once written we take them
as conventional programming. That is not strictly true, but there is
something in it.
Bruno
Brent
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