On 02 Feb 2014, at 20:05, meekerdb wrote:

On 2/2/2014 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Exactly.  The only thing lagging is the AI.

More or less, but "AI" is a bit relative. I agree with Hofstadter "AI" is when the program are not yet written, and once written we take them as conventional programming. That is not strictly true, but there is something in it.

The last time I took a course in AI, in the late 70's, the professor explained that intelligence was defined as "whatever the computer can't do yet".

It is the same idea, yes. It is like a beginning of the elimination of the person for the machines, somehow. It is the reductionist fallacy: if we can explain the soul without a soul, then it does not really exist. I am OK with this, if "realy exists" = "exists at the ontological level": then neither consciousness nor the physical reality "really exists". But of course with comp, both consciousness and physical reality are recovered as "really existing" at the epistemological level, where all interesting things happens.

Bruno



Brent  :-)

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