On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:01:19 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
> On 30 January 2014 11:39, Craig Weinberg <[email protected] <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38:04 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 January 2014 11:24, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:34:48 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > NO ROOM CAN BE CONSCIOUS. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And we know that because we can say it in all capital letters, or 
>>>>> possibly from the teachings of two of your favorite subjects, astrology 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> numerology.    
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The all caps were in response to Bruno's all caps, and no, you don't 
>>>> need astrology and numerology to understand that rooms are not haunted by 
>>>> the spirits of system-hood.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Imagine a small, roughly spherical room made out of a fairly hard 
>>> material something like limestone. Make a few holes in it, fill it with 
>>> some goop with the consistency of blancmange, decorate with sense organs 
>>> and throw in a body.
>>>
>>> Et voila!
>>>
>>
>> Voila, a cadaver.
>>
>> Unless *all *such objects are cadavers, this "disproves" the statement 
> that *no *room can be conscious.
>
> (I must admit the idea that "no room can be conscious" seems to demand 
> qualification...)
>

All such objects would be cadavers, in the absence of some subjective 
experience which is being expressed.  

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