On 3/1/2014 7:54 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 01:03:39PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/1/2014 12:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2014 2:32 PM, LizR wrote:
"If it's all math, then where does math come from?"
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact.
That is, it is a fact that 1+1=2.
Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of
distinct objects and counting them, c.f. William S. Cooper "The
Origin of Reason" and Lakoff and Nunez "Where Mathematics Comes
From".
That makes sense, but only by negating computationalism.
I don't see that it is inconsistent with saying "yes" to the doctor
- though it may be inconsistent with other parts of your argument
like the UDA.
Brent
I don't see that it negates COMP either. And in response to Chris's
original observation, why couldn't minds and phenomena emerge from
numbers, and simultaneously, numbers emerge from the mind. Such would
an example of Hofstadters "strange loop".
IIRC, you (Brent) have suggested virtuous (or vicious) cycles at the base of
everything at times in the past too?
Yes, except I conceive of a virtuous circle of explanation...and reject the idea that
there is an base.
Brent
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