On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:13 AM, chris peck <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> *>>  and prefer my songs interesting and quirky and catchy and fun (or in
> the case of the Smiths, the opposite of fun)(OK, except for "Poker face"
> :-)*
>
>
> Yeah I used to furrow my brow a lot and listen to thought provoking gloom
> but these days fun is where its at.  Lady G gets a lot of air time at home
> and Im enjoying Kitty, Daisy and Lewis at the moment with their yummy
> analogue production and retro sensibility. I  give them a plug whenever I
> can.
>

:-) It depends, sometimes yes... But at other times thought provoking gloom
can be fun, while light, non-gloom fun can seem cheap and pandering. Just
depends on situation. Right now, I don't know if what I'm listening to is
light or gloomy and thought provoking. It has a minimal sort of machine
line, which negates the deep gloom, with small peculiar things happening
punctually. I don't know if its fun, it seems more curious. Thought
provoking? Depends...

It's Robert Henke's ''Ritual'' track on top of his homepage:

http://roberthenke.com/

For those that don't know this guy, his motto is: ''i build machines. then
i step back and watch and listen to what unfolds.'' I prefer his weird
stuff to the club stuff though. PGC


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> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:48:35 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> Subject: Re: The way the future was
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:21:52 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:49:01 PM UTC, chris peck wrote:
>
> >> you are saying that something musically significant happened here
>
> Something significant happened to pop music for sure.
>
> In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood
> of Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean.
> Daddy Cool. Rockin' All Over the World and Yes Sir, I can Boogie.
>
> And then:
>
> Dragged on a table in factory
> Illegitimate place to be
> In a packet in a lavatory
> Die little baby screaming
> Body screaming fucking bloody mess
> Not an animal
> It's an abortion
>
> Body! I'm not animal
> Mummy! I'm not an abortion
>
>
> It kind of hits you in the face with the reality as experienced by the
> dispossessed and disenfranchised, but in a very immediate and visceral way.
> Its far more gut wrenching and confrontational than iggy pop, or the clash
> or any other punk band I know of. Most people are so offended someone is
> singing about abortion that they miss the fact that the song is an argument
> between the unborn child and the mother. For a spotty teenager that's
> pretty brainy lyrically and very surreal.
>
>  I don't think it was ever matched until the Pixies really.
>
> I stand by the Pistols. True, Rotten is a twat now. He wasn't then though.
>
>
>
> I think they were shit, but then it was all just a little before my time.
> I ran away from care homes about 1980 to fine my estranged mum shacked up
> with the ex Crass guitarist Steve Herman in some shitty 
> squat<http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__124_path__.aspx> called
> trentishoe mansions. From there I moved out to live with the punks and
> skins of the west end 1980 generation. Better than a care home hee hee. It
> were great funny actually. But...all the biggest idiots always had sex
> pistols tattoos and sid vicious jackets. The music they made was rubbish.
> An d tends to be remembered as punk. Which even I buy into, hence surprise
> at that clash sound up the top of the thread. All the others liz mentioned
> were much better, though I couldn't have named them myself. Much more a
> case of, I lived it  but I couldn't paint it.
>
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: The way the future was
> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:43 +1100
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did
> arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type
> of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but
> bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing
> away. The world was never the same.
> >
> > I lived through it and was even more the same after it. With all due
> respect, you are saying that something musically significant happened here
> but I only ever heard "racket and rubbish" from Johnny Rotten. I mean, he
> called himself rotten for a reason. He was. He was musically as rotten as
> festering shit. What was musically significant about the Sex Pistols? I
> mean, concerning the actual elements of music. Things like pitch, rhythm,
> harmony, melody - all that core stuff. His music shows no skill whatsoever
> at those things. But then he didn't even write his own music because he was
> too off his dial most of the time. None of this precludes the distinct
> possibility that you, as I myself still do, find vastly entertaining,
> listening to the Sex Pistols very occasionally. I often do listen to music
> I really hate if only to realise why in ever more glory that I love the
> music I really do love...
> >
> > Feel free to hate this post creatively in some way. McClaren would have.
> >
> > Kim
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> I just thought of a great way to end this thread
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw
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