On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:21:52 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:49:01 PM UTC, chris peck wrote: >> >> >> you are saying that something musically significant happened here >> >> Something significant happened to pop music for sure. >> >> In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood >> of Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean. >> Daddy Cool. Rockin' All Over the World and Yes Sir, I can Boogie. >> >> And then: >> >> Dragged on a table in factory >> Illegitimate place to be >> In a packet in a lavatory >> Die little baby screaming >> Body screaming fucking bloody mess >> Not an animal >> It's an abortion >> >> Body! I'm not animal >> Mummy! I'm not an abortion >> >> >> It kind of hits you in the face with the reality as experienced by the >> dispossessed and disenfranchised, but in a very immediate and visceral way. >> Its far more gut wrenching and confrontational than iggy pop, or the clash >> or any other punk band I know of. Most people are so offended someone is >> singing about abortion that they miss the fact that the song is an argument >> between the unborn child and the mother. For a spotty teenager that's >> pretty brainy lyrically and very surreal. >> >> I don't think it was ever matched until the Pixies really. >> >> I stand by the Pistols. True, Rotten is a twat now. He wasn't then though. >> >> > > I think they were shit, but then it was all just a little before my time. > I ran away from care homes about 1980 to fine my estranged mum shacked up > with the ex Crass guitarist Steve Herman in some shitty > squat<http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__124_path__.aspx> called > trentishoe mansions. From there I moved out to live with the punks and > skins of the west end 1980 generation. Better than a care home hee hee. It > were great funny actually. But...all the biggest idiots always had sex > pistols tattoos and sid vicious jackets. The music they made was rubbish. > An d tends to be remembered as punk. Which even I buy into, hence surprise > at that clash sound up the top of the thread. All the others liz mentioned > were much better, though I couldn't have named them myself. Much more a > case of, I lived it but I couldn't paint it. > >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: The way the future was >> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:43 +1100 >> > To: [email protected] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, [email protected] wrote: >> > > >> > > Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did >> arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type >> of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but >> bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing >> away. The world was never the same. >> > >> > I lived through it and was even more the same after it. With all due >> respect, you are saying that something musically significant happened here >> but I only ever heard "racket and rubbish" from Johnny Rotten. I mean, he >> called himself rotten for a reason. He was. He was musically as rotten as >> festering shit. What was musically significant about the Sex Pistols? I >> mean, concerning the actual elements of music. Things like pitch, rhythm, >> harmony, melody - all that core stuff. His music shows no skill whatsoever >> at those things. But then he didn't even write his own music because he was >> too off his dial most of the time. None of this precludes the distinct >> possibility that you, as I myself still do, find vastly entertaining, >> listening to the Sex Pistols very occasionally. I often do listen to music >> I really hate if only to realise why in ever more glory that I love the >> music I really do love... >> > >> > Feel free to hate this post creatively in some way. McClaren would have. >> > >> > Kim >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > I just thought of a great way to end this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUwW108ITzw
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