On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:49:01 PM UTC, chris peck wrote:
>
> >> you are saying that something musically significant happened here
>
> Something significant happened to pop music for sure.
>
> In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood 
> of Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean. 
> Daddy Cool. Rockin' All Over the World and Yes Sir, I can Boogie.
>
> And then:
>
> Dragged on a table in factory
> Illegitimate place to be
> In a packet in a lavatory
> Die little baby screaming
> Body screaming fucking bloody mess
> Not an animal
> It's an abortion
>
> Body! I'm not animal
> Mummy! I'm not an abortion
>
>
> It kind of hits you in the face with the reality as experienced by the 
> dispossessed and disenfranchised, but in a very immediate and visceral way. 
> Its far more gut wrenching and confrontational than iggy pop, or the clash 
> or any other punk band I know of. Most people are so offended someone is 
> singing about abortion that they miss the fact that the song is an argument 
> between the unborn child and the mother. For a spotty teenager that's 
> pretty brainy lyrically and very surreal. 
>
>  I don't think it was ever matched until the Pixies really.
>
> I stand by the Pistols. True, Rotten is a twat now. He wasn't then though.
>  
>
 
I think they were shit, but then it was all just a little before my time. I 
ran away from care homes about 1980 to fine my estranged mum shacked up 
with the ex Crass guitarist Steve Herman in some shitty 
squat<http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__124_path__.aspx> called 
trentishoe mansions. From there I moved out to live with the punks and 
skins of the west end 1980 generation. Better than a care home hee hee. It 
were great funny actually. But...all the biggest idiots always had sex 
pistols tattoos and sid vicious jackets. The music they made was rubbish. 
An d tends to be remembered as punk. Which even I buy into, hence surprise 
at that clash sound up the top of the thread. All the others liz mentioned 
were much better, though I couldn't have named them myself. Much more a 
case of, I lived it  but I couldn't paint it.

>
>
> > From: [email protected] <javascript:>
> > Subject: Re: The way the future was
> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:43 +1100
> > To: [email protected] <javascript:>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did 
> arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type 
> of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but 
> bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing 
> away. The world was never the same.
> > 
> > I lived through it and was even more the same after it. With all due 
> respect, you are saying that something musically significant happened here 
> but I only ever heard "racket and rubbish" from Johnny Rotten. I mean, he 
> called himself rotten for a reason. He was. He was musically as rotten as 
> festering shit. What was musically significant about the Sex Pistols? I 
> mean, concerning the actual elements of music. Things like pitch, rhythm, 
> harmony, melody - all that core stuff. His music shows no skill whatsoever 
> at those things. But then he didn't even write his own music because he was 
> too off his dial most of the time. None of this precludes the distinct 
> possibility that you, as I myself still do, find vastly entertaining, 
> listening to the Sex Pistols very occasionally. I often do listen to music 
> I really hate if only to realise why in ever more glory that I love the 
> music I really do love...
> > 
> > Feel free to hate this post creatively in some way. McClaren would have.
> > 
> > Kim
> > 
> > -- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> Groups "Everything List" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>.
> > To post to this group, send email to 
> > [email protected]<javascript:>
> .
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to