On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:49:01 PM UTC, chris peck wrote: > > >> you are saying that something musically significant happened here > > Something significant happened to pop music for sure. > > In 1977 the charts were dominated by David Soul, Rod Stewart, Brotherhood > of Man, Leo Sayer, Hot Chocolate, Boney M, Shawaddywaddy and Billy Ocean. > Daddy Cool. Rockin' All Over the World and Yes Sir, I can Boogie. > > And then: > > Dragged on a table in factory > Illegitimate place to be > In a packet in a lavatory > Die little baby screaming > Body screaming fucking bloody mess > Not an animal > It's an abortion > > Body! I'm not animal > Mummy! I'm not an abortion > > > It kind of hits you in the face with the reality as experienced by the > dispossessed and disenfranchised, but in a very immediate and visceral way. > Its far more gut wrenching and confrontational than iggy pop, or the clash > or any other punk band I know of. Most people are so offended someone is > singing about abortion that they miss the fact that the song is an argument > between the unborn child and the mother. For a spotty teenager that's > pretty brainy lyrically and very surreal. > > I don't think it was ever matched until the Pixies really. > > I stand by the Pistols. True, Rotten is a twat now. He wasn't then though. > > I think they were shit, but then it was all just a little before my time. I ran away from care homes about 1980 to fine my estranged mum shacked up with the ex Crass guitarist Steve Herman in some shitty squat<http://www.coventgardenmemories.org.uk/page_id__124_path__.aspx> called trentishoe mansions. From there I moved out to live with the punks and skins of the west end 1980 generation. Better than a care home hee hee. It were great funny actually. But...all the biggest idiots always had sex pistols tattoos and sid vicious jackets. The music they made was rubbish. An d tends to be remembered as punk. Which even I buy into, hence surprise at that clash sound up the top of the thread. All the others liz mentioned were much better, though I couldn't have named them myself. Much more a case of, I lived it but I couldn't paint it.
> > > > From: [email protected] <javascript:> > > Subject: Re: The way the future was > > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:03:43 +1100 > > To: [email protected] <javascript:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > > > Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did > arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type > of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but > bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing > away. The world was never the same. > > > > I lived through it and was even more the same after it. With all due > respect, you are saying that something musically significant happened here > but I only ever heard "racket and rubbish" from Johnny Rotten. I mean, he > called himself rotten for a reason. He was. He was musically as rotten as > festering shit. What was musically significant about the Sex Pistols? I > mean, concerning the actual elements of music. Things like pitch, rhythm, > harmony, melody - all that core stuff. His music shows no skill whatsoever > at those things. But then he didn't even write his own music because he was > too off his dial most of the time. None of this precludes the distinct > possibility that you, as I myself still do, find vastly entertaining, > listening to the Sex Pistols very occasionally. I often do listen to music > I really hate if only to realise why in ever more glory that I love the > music I really do love... > > > > Feel free to hate this post creatively in some way. McClaren would have. > > > > Kim > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javascript:> > . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

