Just to muddy the waters further, here is a study from from Geoscience, 
courtesy, Physorg. I could re-name the article Localized Global heating. It 
kicks up my suspicion, that soot might be the biggest culprit for the heat 
around Indonesia? This has been proposed by some climate scientists, and 
because Indonesia is a major polluter, worse than the US and Europe combined 
(throw in Malaysia), the pollution could be causing trouble-but its not 
global(yet). If this guess is correct, If the Indonesians switch more to 
natural gas (methane burned in turbines) plus wind and solar, (once storage 
becomes real) then we could have some remediation. Thus, a panic to make 
supplication to out holy rulers would be avoided, assuming anyone considers 
management by the political elites, less than desirable. 


http://phys.org/news/2014-03-ucla-yields-accurate-thousands-years.html



-----Original Message-----
From: spudboy100 <[email protected]>
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Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 5:56 am
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating


Liz, me too. I liked the Larry Niven Known Space Galaxy. A Galaxy inhabited 
with rational, space aliens. The people advocating a human die off, and I claim 
they are in a De Facto way, want energy starvation, and the population to drop, 
so nature is preserved. Understandable, and de facto, genocidal. Who would 
admit to that, publically? Privately, I think we are not at that far from the 
movie, Elysium.  Doing evil, law makers call it other things like national 
security, public safety, environmental protection, and the like. Ad Astra!


-----Original Message-----
From: LizR <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating



On 14 March 2014 12:54,  <[email protected]> wrote:

Please note, the way to either techs success is not through energy starvation, 
nor abandoning the world to poverty. 




I hope nobody in their right mind is actually advocating this. I'd like to live 
a long time and visit other stars, not live back in "The Golden Age" (that 
never was). 





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