On 3/19/2014 8:45 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
In the present state and the physical transition rules from one state to another ? if
the transition is reversible then from only the current state you can infer the past
state, without it being "encoded" in the present state... the current state + transition
rule is enough.
Quentin
2014-03-19 16:33 GMT+01:00 Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net
<mailto:edgaro...@att.net>>:
Telmo,
No, that was Brent's claim. I'm asking him to tell us how it works. Where
is all
that additional information about past states stored if he thinks none of
it is lost?
Edgar
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:32:48 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
Telmo,
No, compression is totally unable to explain the storage of total
information in a universe which continually doubles its amount of
information from one Planck time to the next and continually adds
that
amount to the cumulative total.
So you're essentially claiming that the universe is increasing
exponentially in
complexity?
Edgar
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:17:28 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Edgar L. Owen
<edga...@att.net> wrote:
Brent,
If information is not being lost then the amount of
information in
the universe is increasing at a tremendous rate as new
events occur,
and has been since the beginning.
That's a false premise. The universe apparently started in a state of very low entropy
relative to macroscopic variables we measure. If the evolution is unitary, as we think,
then there is no change in the information. The tremendous increase you refer to is
relative to macroscopic constraints. It is often not appreciated that entropy is relative
to assumed knowledge; see Jaynes 1996 paper "The Gibbs Paradox" for an exposition.
Brent
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