On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]>wrote:
> Solar PV is here today > Solar PV has been here for 60 years and THOUSANDS of times more money has been spent developing it than has been spent on LFTR R&D, and yet solar PV is still just a rounding error in our total energy budget. > I see the practical technological limits that constrain what can actually > be accomplished. > Apparently not. >> Oh for heavens sake! There is no Uranium shortage and Thorium is 4 times >> as abundant and easier to separate from it's ore than Uranium is, and we >> can only get energy from .7% of the Uranium but we can use 100% of the >> Thorium! So do you REALLY want to say we shouldn't consider Thorium because >> we can't get enough of it?? >> > > > Wrong again > I want to know if I really understand you correctly, are you saying that a major problem (or even a minor problem) with using Thorium for energy is that there isn't enough of it? Is that really your position? > > the world is facing a recoverable uranium peak that will be reached > within a decade or two (at current extraction rates, if nuclear is ramped > up peak uranium will be reached that much sooner). > Uranium prices are the lowest they've been in 8 years. I found a chart for the last 5 years: And so I would like to make a public bet with you and see if you're willing to put your money where your mouth is. You say the shit will hit the fan within a decade or two, so if before April 4 2024 there is widespread reactor shutdowns because of Uranium shortages (and not due to temper tantrums from environmentalists) then, assuming I'm still alive, I will send you $1000; if there are not widespread reactor shutdowns because of Uranium shortages before April 4 2024 then, assuming you're still alive, you only needs to send me $100. So do we have a bet? Come on I'm giving you 10 to 1 odds! >> You are the one making the claim that extracting 12 grams of Thorium >> from one meter of dirt would take more energy than the Thorium could >> produce, so it is up to you to show it's true; although nobody would be >> dumb enough to bother with such dirt when there is ore that contains 50% >> Thorium available. >> > > > Whatever. > Yes, whatever. > I do not inhabit the same magical thinking universe you seem to live in. > How nice for you, therefore by accepting my bet you can make an easy $1000. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
