On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > Read Corona's post carefully. > > > I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I > don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When > I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at the > same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore me to > tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video > still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing the > divine: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc > > It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the > ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more > amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are > also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the > west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in > the road. > > On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we > still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet > and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they > are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of > some cyberpunk dystopia. > > But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is > part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If > anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only > increasing the carrying capacity of our environment. > > Telmo. > You say some true-ringing things. But things get better or get worse for a people for fundamental reasons. For example when the Indigenous Americans were having their culture discredited and subjected effectively to a dispossession from the lands they had made their own, which is never anything other than a dispossession, and never anything other than a stage of genocide. When all that was happening around them and they were too afraid to speak up about because that was the extent they had been ground down and poisoned by the feelings of guilt, inadequacy, shame and responsibility....that were the devices of another people with the goal of stealing everything away. In that time for those people, I wonder if there were little voices like yours say "everything feels bad....but I have NO IDEA why that can be"
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