2014-04-10 18:28 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:

> Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults
>  andd ad-hominem straw man etc,  have any effect across internet except to
> laugh at you?
>

Who's the one insulting ? You are certainly blind to your own writings...


>
> The time of the police state enforcer of ideológicall uniformity has gone
> since 1995. Oh wait.... I know why you may need another one...
>
>
>
>
> 2014-04-10 18:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>:
>
> The Swiss where many, very many as I understand it, young men are
>> bisexual, seems to argue to the contrary... Seems they found out that sex
>> is sex and for a man to love it must be based on sex.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alberto G. Corona 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays
>>> by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons.
>>> If any, the current promotion of "gay rights" will exacerbate true
>>> homophoby in the medium- long term. In the same way that feminism is
>>> increasing the violence against women.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-10 16:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other
>>>> than a man and a woman,  neither climate can be changed by little ants like
>>>> us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither
>>>> supranational identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without
>>>> depending on ideas and societies essentially made by men. Neither abortion
>>>> can be promoted without immense pain in women  for the assassination of
>>>>  his child.
>>>>
>>>> But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international
>>>> delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the idea that
>>>> "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and "a catastrophe is
>>>> coming and we will not survive if the world do not do X" where X is
>>>> invariably something very painful that demand a lot of concentrated power
>>>> in a central elite.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an
>>>> economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle
>>>> of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Read  Corona's post carefully.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering.
>>>>> I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion.
>>>>> When I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and 
>>>>> at
>>>>> the same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore
>>>>> me to tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. 
>>>>> This
>>>>> video still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at
>>>>> showing the divine:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc
>>>>>
>>>>> It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the
>>>>> ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more
>>>>> amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are
>>>>> also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the
>>>>> west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in
>>>>> the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we
>>>>> still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet
>>>>> and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they
>>>>> are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of
>>>>> some cyberpunk dystopia.
>>>>>
>>>>> But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion"
>>>>> is part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If
>>>>> anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only
>>>>> increasing the carrying capacity of our environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Telmo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Telmo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively
>>>>>>>> defined.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Liz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+
>>>>>>>>>> feminism+ Gay promotion  instead of international collaboration for 
>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>> exploration and expansion has some reasons:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in
>>>>>>>>> weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? People 
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads 
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm 
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally 
>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different percentage 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable 
>>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>>> for no good reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> first:  any menace related with resources and population is
>>>>>>>>>> easier to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive 
>>>>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>>>>> since we were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were 
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> wild animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and 
>>>>>>>>>> plants as
>>>>>>>>>> we produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is in 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute 
>>>>>>>>>> resources with
>>>>>>>>>> our knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that
>>>>>>>>>> depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place 
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited still. 
>>>>>>>>>> An yet
>>>>>>>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals  and more 
>>>>>>>>>> forest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings
>>>>>>>>>> and "want to save the planet".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at
>>>>>>>>>> least, not as a totalitarian religion. The  Cult to the earth and 
>>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>> sacrifices will ever qualify since it is the most primitive religion.
>>>>>>>>>> Leaders want commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, 
>>>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>>>> the nature of beings with incomplete information. I explained it in 
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> thread as well as others in this group.
>>>>>>>>>>
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