The Swiss where many, very many as I understand it, young men are bisexual,
seems to argue to the contrary... Seems they found out that sex is sex and
for a man to love it must be based on sex.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>wrote:

> By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays by
> men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons. If
> any, the current promotion of "gay rights" will exacerbate true homophoby
> in the medium- long term. In the same way that feminism is increasing the
> violence against women.
>
>
> 2014-04-10 16:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
>
> sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than
>> a man and a woman,  neither climate can be changed by little ants like us,
>> neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational
>> identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without depending on
>> ideas and societies essentially made by men. Neither abortion can be
>> promoted without immense pain in women  for the assassination of  his
>> child.
>>
>> But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international
>> delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the idea that
>> "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and "a catastrophe is
>> coming and we will not survive if the world do not do X" where X is
>> invariably something very painful that demand a lot of concentrated power
>> in a central elite.
>>
>>
>> In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an
>> economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle
>> of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Read  Corona's post carefully.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I
>>> don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When
>>> I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at the
>>> same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore me to
>>> tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video
>>> still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing the
>>> divine:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc
>>>
>>> It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the
>>> ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more
>>> amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are
>>> also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the
>>> west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in
>>> the road.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we
>>> still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet
>>> and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they
>>> are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of
>>> some cyberpunk dystopia.
>>>
>>> But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is
>>> part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If
>>> anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only
>>> increasing the carrying capacity of our environment.
>>>
>>> Telmo.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Telmo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively
>>>>>> defined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Liz,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the
>>>>>>>>>>> planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+ feminism+
>>>>>>>> Gay promotion  instead of international collaboration for space 
>>>>>>>> exploration
>>>>>>>> and expansion has some reasons:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in
>>>>>>> weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? People 
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads or
>>>>>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm 
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally 
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different percentage of
>>>>>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable 
>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>> for no good reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> first:  any menace related with resources and population is easier
>>>>>>>> to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive concerns 
>>>>>>>> since we
>>>>>>>> were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were after wild
>>>>>>>> animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and plants as we
>>>>>>>> produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is in the
>>>>>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute resources 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> our knowledge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that
>>>>>>>> depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place every
>>>>>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited still. 
>>>>>>>> An yet
>>>>>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals  and more forest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings
>>>>>>>> and "want to save the planet".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at least,
>>>>>>>> not as a totalitarian religion. The  Cult to the earth and human 
>>>>>>>> sacrifices
>>>>>>>> will ever qualify since it is the most primitive religion. Leaders want
>>>>>>>> commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, due to the 
>>>>>>>> nature of
>>>>>>>> beings with incomplete information. I explained it in this thread as 
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> as others in this group.
>>>>>>>>
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