Stephen

hehehe. Ok I will not.

Reality can fight  alone and will win inevitably against the ones that deny
it.

The problem is the price to pay in the process


2014-04-10 18:38 GMT+02:00 Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>:

> Alberto,
>
>   Don't feed the trolls...
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Alberto G. Corona 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults
>>  andd ad-hominem straw man etc,  have any effect across internet except to
>> laugh at you?
>>
>> The time of the police state enforcer of ideológicall uniformity has gone
>> since 1995. Oh wait.... I know why you may need another one...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-10 18:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>:
>>
>> The Swiss where many, very many as I understand it, young men are
>>> bisexual, seems to argue to the contrary... Seems they found out that sex
>>> is sex and for a man to love it must be based on sex.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays
>>>> by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons.
>>>> If any, the current promotion of "gay rights" will exacerbate true
>>>> homophoby in the medium- long term. In the same way that feminism is
>>>> increasing the violence against women.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-10 16:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other
>>>>> than a man and a woman,  neither climate can be changed by little ants 
>>>>> like
>>>>> us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither
>>>>> supranational identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without
>>>>> depending on ideas and societies essentially made by men. Neither abortion
>>>>> can be promoted without immense pain in women  for the assassination of
>>>>>  his child.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international
>>>>> delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the idea 
>>>>> that
>>>>> "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and "a catastrophe 
>>>>> is
>>>>> coming and we will not survive if the world do not do X" where X is
>>>>> invariably something very painful that demand a lot of concentrated power
>>>>> in a central elite.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an
>>>>> economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle
>>>>> of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read  Corona's post carefully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth
>>>>>> considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> religion. When I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday
>>>>>> school, and at the same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The
>>>>>> former just bore me to tears, while the second gave me feelings of human
>>>>>> transcendence. This video still works better for me than all of the
>>>>>> religious attempts at showing the divine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the
>>>>>> ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more
>>>>>> amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are
>>>>>> also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the
>>>>>> west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in
>>>>>> the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe
>>>>>> we still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the 
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they
>>>>>> are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of
>>>>>> some cyberpunk dystopia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion"
>>>>>> is part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. 
>>>>>> If
>>>>>> anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only
>>>>>> increasing the carrying capacity of our environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telmo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Telmo,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively
>>>>>>>>> defined.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Liz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+
>>>>>>>>>>> feminism+ Gay promotion  instead of international collaboration for 
>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>> exploration and expansion has some reasons:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in
>>>>>>>>>> weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? 
>>>>>>>>>> People can't
>>>>>>>>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads 
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally 
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different 
>>>>>>>>>> percentage of
>>>>>>>>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable 
>>>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>>>> for no good reason.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> first:  any menace related with resources and population is
>>>>>>>>>>> easier to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive 
>>>>>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>>>>>> since we were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were 
>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>> wild animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and 
>>>>>>>>>>> plants as
>>>>>>>>>>> we produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute 
>>>>>>>>>>> resources with
>>>>>>>>>>> our knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people
>>>>>>>>>>> that depleted complely the resources and had to move to another 
>>>>>>>>>>> place every
>>>>>>>>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited 
>>>>>>>>>>> still. An yet
>>>>>>>>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals  and more 
>>>>>>>>>>> forest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human
>>>>>>>>>>> beings and "want to save the planet".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at
>>>>>>>>>>> least, not as a totalitarian religion. The  Cult to the earth and 
>>>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>>> sacrifices will ever qualify since it is the most primitive 
>>>>>>>>>>> religion.
>>>>>>>>>>> Leaders want commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, 
>>>>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>>>>> the nature of beings with incomplete information. I explained it in 
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> thread as well as others in this group.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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