Chris and Guitar, you are funny. Do you believe that these mere insults
 andd ad-hominem straw man etc,  have any effect across internet except to
laugh at you?

The time of the police state enforcer of ideológicall uniformity has gone
since 1995. Oh wait.... I know why you may need another one...




2014-04-10 18:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>:

> The Swiss where many, very many as I understand it, young men are
> bisexual, seems to argue to the contrary... Seems they found out that sex
> is sex and for a man to love it must be based on sex.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alberto G. Corona 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of gays
>> by men will never ever change. There are compelling evolitionary reasons.
>> If any, the current promotion of "gay rights" will exacerbate true
>> homophoby in the medium- long term. In the same way that feminism is
>> increasing the violence against women.
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-10 16:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
>>
>> sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than
>>> a man and a woman,  neither climate can be changed by little ants like us,
>>> neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational
>>> identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without depending on
>>> ideas and societies essentially made by men. Neither abortion can be
>>> promoted without immense pain in women  for the assassination of  his
>>> child.
>>>
>>> But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international
>>> delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the idea that
>>> "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and "a catastrophe is
>>> coming and we will not survive if the world do not do X" where X is
>>> invariably something very painful that demand a lot of concentrated power
>>> in a central elite.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an
>>> economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle
>>> of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Read  Corona's post carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering.
>>>> I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion.
>>>> When I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at
>>>> the same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore
>>>> me to tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This
>>>> video still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at
>>>> showing the divine:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc
>>>>
>>>> It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the
>>>> ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more
>>>> amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are
>>>> also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the
>>>> west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in
>>>> the road.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we
>>>> still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet
>>>> and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they
>>>> are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of
>>>> some cyberpunk dystopia.
>>>>
>>>> But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is
>>>> part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If
>>>> anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only
>>>> increasing the carrying capacity of our environment.
>>>>
>>>> Telmo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Telmo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively
>>>>>>> defined.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi Liz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off
>>>>>>>>>>>> the planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+
>>>>>>>>> feminism+ Gay promotion  instead of international collaboration for 
>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>> exploration and expansion has some reasons:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in
>>>>>>>> weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? People 
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads or
>>>>>>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm 
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally 
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different percentage 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable 
>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>> for no good reason.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> first:  any menace related with resources and population is easier
>>>>>>>>> to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive concerns 
>>>>>>>>> since we
>>>>>>>>> were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were after wild
>>>>>>>>> animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and plants as 
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is in the
>>>>>>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute 
>>>>>>>>> resources with
>>>>>>>>> our knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that
>>>>>>>>> depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place every
>>>>>>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited still. 
>>>>>>>>> An yet
>>>>>>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals  and more forest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings
>>>>>>>>> and "want to save the planet".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at
>>>>>>>>> least, not as a totalitarian religion. The  Cult to the earth and 
>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>> sacrifices will ever qualify since it is the most primitive religion.
>>>>>>>>> Leaders want commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, 
>>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>>> the nature of beings with incomplete information. I explained it in 
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> thread as well as others in this group.
>>>>>>>>>
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