Understood, but China is not pursuing a policy of eliminating AGW, but
reducing smog in its cities. Its not a kumbaya moment now for anything
nowbin east asia as you hsve noticed, regarding china. The best way
then to reduce carbon emissions is to develop clean energy generators,
that can be installed quickly, reliably, abundantly, and china will
follow, because it will be cleaner then coal, and quicker and cheaper
thsn nukes. But it must be available to buy or steal from us, so if the
chinese do this, it will help us never the less.
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.
I think you'll find China is trying to cut its pollution, particularly*
air pollution, and succeeding to some extent. Basically it has to,
because the problem is so bad that it's severely impacting health and
production.
http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/specials/gpm04/fierce-fight-gdp-air/
*an environmental pun, what next?
On 23 April 2014 09:04, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
Yeah, it will be costly whether we live or die. It's better to focus on
a techno fix rather than social engineering by red-greens, and the uber
rich. If we want to reduce heating, then reduce CO2, methane, water
vapor. Easier said then done, but what isn't?
The military industrial complex was a feature on both sides of the old
cold war, and china, for example has not renounced its weapons
expansion, nor pollution. Peace, by behavior, has to be a two way
street. One side cannot do peace while the other pursues war. Look no
further than the Putin grab of the Ukraine for a timely example. Your
values, are not Putin's values, which is why we have war.
Probably, if people get focused on intermediate rewards that are
greater than what war brings, we could have peace. But those rewards
better occur, otherwise its revolution and war.
You sound confused. By tax payer funded gravy train did not seem to be
focusing in on the more or less permanent state of war – the war on
terror -- that the military industrial complex has profited so nicely
from… In the amount of trillions of dollars. If you want to start
talking about government gravy trains why not begin with the elephant
in the room. You focus too much – IMO – on the wee little mice (in the
world of government subsidy) and fail to notice the four hundred pound
hogs.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 21, 2014 10:08 pm
Subject: RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
spudboy...@aol.com
Simply put, we need better energy technology, for energy and climate
remediation, and not better government dictatorship, who, are all
looking out for us all. If climate scientists want to pile on to the
tax payer funded gravy train, that is incidental. If they have some
solutions to propose, beyond proposing green fascist rules for the
serfs, then I will listen. The Reich, the Soviets, and Mao, had
brilliant scientists working for them too. Piling-on doesn't sell,
solutions do.
You sound confused. By tax payer funded gravy train did not seem to be
focusing in on the more or less permanent state of war – the war on
terror -- that the military industrial complex has profited so nicely
from… In the amount of trillions of dollars. If you want to start
talking about government gravy trains why not begin with the elephant
in the room. You focus too much – IMO – on the wee little mice (in the
world of government subsidy) and fail to notice the four hundred pound
hogs.
Chris
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